Message today to Patrick Keefe (after he named alleged killer of Jean McConville)

10 responses to “Message today to Patrick Keefe (after he named alleged killer of Jean McConville)”

1. colmsplace | December 28, 2024 at 5:35 pm | Reply

   What do you mean, in ‘felon-setting’?

   You really think that important, in the context of (1) the murders that happened (2) that this dramatic reconstruction, or play, or docu-drama, or whatever is awakening interest in what was the history of this little place?

   • The Broken Elbow | December 28, 2024 at 5:43 pm | Reply

     So, i could name you as a murderer and you’d be okay with it?

     • colmsplace | December 28, 2024 at 6:23 pm |

       If I had done some such murder, perhaps for reasons of political allegiance, I wouldn’t have much of a leg to stand on. So no, my worry would be in other directions.

       There are several problems with this way (your way|) of looking at the world. It’s not 1890, the precise origins lie in that time, and so its as antique as the blunderbuss in seeing it as relevant to even the 1970s.

       If you think I have done something (I haven’t) accuse. It probably won’t matter, not enough to go to court.

   • The Broken Elbow | December 30, 2024 at 5:41 pm | Reply

     if you were Irish or knew anything about Irish history, particularly in regard to Britain’s role in that country, you would not need the meaning spelled out…..

2. The Broken Elbow | December 28, 2024 at 6:26 pm | Reply

   No, i would sue but only if i knew i had been wronged named hence the concern in naming people without evidence, which you seem to be happy with!

3. colmsplace | December 28, 2024 at 7:23 pm | Reply

   It’s journalism and opinion, not a court.

   “naming people without evidence” – what on earth exercises you on this? The named persons were members of the IRA, and did similar events, at the least. Who cares?

   If there was real injury (i.e. it was untrue, and also damaging) then they could sue.

   If someone said a named political leader was a dishonest shit, who profited from other peoples injury and death, would that matter? (btw, thinking of Gerry Adams in that. Could apply to others too)

4. Claire | December 29, 2024 at 10:17 am | Reply

   How does anyone with a passing knowledge of Irish history not know the term “felon-setting”?

5. colmsplace | January 5, 2025 at 5:16 am | Reply

   The use of the term ‘felon setting’ suggests that the speaker is fighting an old war, one that is over. Over, and the Establishment won, by suborning the leaders of Sinn Fein. Considering the alternative, that’s a good thing.

   However, while that war is over, the struggle against that same establishment continues. When I say ‘same’, they are precisely the people who oppressed the people of the first colony, and then all the later colonies, all for their personal greed. They made the power of the City of London (corporate body, not urban space), and their direct descendants still run that / own the UK economy (see Lord Salisbury, he of destruction (in his part) of Lough Neagh. There are hundreds of others). That little war we all went through was minor league, the real struggle is to defeat them systematically, and remove their ill-gotten wealth.

   To get down to that struggle, clarity of understanding is useful. ‘Felon setting’ and the mindset attached is not useful

6. Bloggy Mcbloggerson | March 6, 2025 at 1:39 pm | Reply

   sure your mate mcintout flapped his gums so much to that yank that he got a Disney series out of it. Ed, the yanks have a group called the oath keepers, I’d call the people you associate with in Ireland the oath forgetters.

   • The Broken Elbow | July 27, 2025 at 5:16 pm | Reply

     wouldn’t disagree with a word. he no longer exists as far as i am concerned….

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